Salon Rising: The Podcast

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The absolute magic of a mastermind is you've got six heads together coming up with different ideas. Amazing that you guys were able to bring a group of women together that got along like that. Yeah. So then I was like, How does it happen? Am I giving enough? Am I doing enough? That community built and it was strong and it was really powerful to watch it flourish.

You know, there is so much power and we know that in community, like we know that this is the first time we've seen this, this fucking powerful. Not someone to necessarily try and fix it. Yeah. But to say, Just listen. That's shit. Yeah. And we're here to listen. We're here to support you. You know, for people like, I don't have a village.

It's like, we'll just keep searching until you find the one that fits. It's just, it's goes to show how, how important it is to surround yourself with the right circle and the right, like have like another person that's been a huge support to me as you know, one of our best friends, Chantelle from Tleish, like I couldn't have got through things without her as well.

Like just to just release all those little things, like Lauren was saying and her pod. To release all the small things that no longer matter. And then you can just fully immerse yourself and live into that life. It hits so different to being able to go home and tell your husband, he's like, well, why don't you just fire them?

To see the power of. community for business owners was just amazing. Surrounding yourself with women that can see you when you can't see yourself is the most important thing that you can possibly do. Is give you, and you know, if you don't have it, Get into groups like this. Hey lovers, just a quick one. If you listen to us and you love us, could you please hit that subscribe button?

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This brand is truly incredible and we are so excited to work alongside you. Welcome back to the Inner Sanctum Salon Rising, the podcast. Hey Sam. Hey man. Oh, it's a big day of podcasting podcasting today. And I think we got so lucky because the last podcast you guys obviously have heard that we have just come off retreat.

Yep. And it was so nice also, because I feel like you and I got to experience full retreat. Like even though we hosted the retreat, it was just because, you know, we were so close to the people that we've worked with for these 12 months. We got to just be in retreat. Oh, it was just like, it was a super nurturing process for everybody.

Yeah. We got to be the mamas. It was, yeah, it was a really hard weekend. I worked super hard, you know, had to really like dig deep to just work, work, work. If anybody's listening, that's in my household. I worked really hard this weekend. Not a retreat at all. You did work hard. Um, I really, the thing I'm most excited about these.

It's a couple of podcasts that we're recording today, which will obviously be, um, distributed at different times is that we're finally getting to speak in person to a couple of people that we have in the past only been able to, I mean, obviously we've spoken to these people in person, but for the pod, we've only been able to like do online, do online.

And I just think, yeah, there's something so powerful about getting to hear a story in person. So I'm going to introduce it. So I'm gonna intro the second time pod, one of my closest, closest, closest friends, Justine from Eve the Salon . Yes. It's the first time I, it's the first time I've been able to introduce Eve, even though I feel like that name was birthed so long ago.

She's been a long time in the making. She's been a long time in the making. So, little bit of backstory, little bit of backstory story Does. We haven't already been, you haven't always been Eve the Salon. I haven't always been Eve the Salon. So the last time Jussie came on out, Justine, sorry, going to be a professional.

No, we can say Jussie. Last time Jussie came on, Jussie's Salon was called something different. Yes. I was known for a very long time as Heron Harlow and then evolved into Heron Harlow Fairy Meadow. Um, and Eve the Salon was born about. Three months ago? She finally came to light. So, um, it's been a long time in the making and it feels really good.

So, yeah, I'd love to talk to you guys as much as I can about rebranding and trying to take the fear out of it for anyone who is considering that as an option. So, and I think also it was a, it's a big like. Her and Harley was a big, well-known brand. Yeah. So it's long time, long time. Not just like, oh, he's a, you know, I'm buying a salon and it's a small salon and I, I wanna rebrand it in my name.

Yeah. Joie was rebranding her herself very well-known salon. Yeah. To be her own. identity again. Yeah, so firstly the name. Hang on, before, so if you haven't listened to Justine's first episode, like, we'll have it in the show notes, pop back and listen, but just for a little bit of like behind the scenes for that one, so, uh, Justine was part of a partnership, that is where the original Hair and Harlow name was birthed from, uh, and then that partnership decided to separate and that's where, but keep the name.

And so Justine was her and Har Harlow Fairy Meadow, and the other person was her and Harlow somewhere else. Yeah. And this rebrand has come about as that journey has continued. So the two solo has carried on. So we had in total, I've had her and Harlow for 10 years. Yep. Um, then the separation happened three years ago.

So I was here in Harlow Fairy Meadow for three years of that. Um, and. Three years ago, I actually was, I actually registered the business as Eve the Salon. I always knew eventually it would be something that I did. I remember sitting by the pool when we, when you were here with Dave and you were sitting, we were sitting by the pool.

At the casino and you were like, this is what the name will be, and I just, I remember loving it from the beginning. So the name comes from? The name Eve is my middle name. Um, and I felt like it was a beautiful, I always felt like it was a beautiful way to tie the salon to me. I've always been hair by Justine Eve on Instagram.

I felt like it was a beautiful way to tie the name to me. Whilst not being your name, just across the front of the cell love, you know, because you have to think about future. What happens if I ever did down the track, want to move on from owning a salon and sell the cell? And I didn't want it to be really tied in with me.

And also Eve is so feminine. I mean, she was the first female and I feel like that really resonates I hadn't even thought of that. How do you not even think of that? It hits differently when you hear that, right? Yeah. It was not just that it was like Eve was the first woman and so just like, it just felt so powerful.

Um, and honestly, The way that it has felt since she came to light is so incredible. Like it has been so empowering from something that was quite a hard time when it was all sort of happening and a very scary move and it now just feels so light and fluffy and amazing. Um, you know, like I said, it was, it was a big brand name for a long time and it was mine for 10 years and I put my.

Blood, sweat, and tears into building that brand into what it was, you know, when it was a partnership and then when it was just solo. Um, but I also felt like, especially when I went into Heron Hollow, Fairy Meadow, there was, I always still felt a little bit held back in a way, because it was almost like anything.

It was tying you to that time. Yeah. And instead of, you know, I guess we had sort of sold the split as a, And an evolvement of the brand like a lot of people still felt like they were actually Connected connected even though they were two completely separately run businesses had absolutely nothing financially to do with each other Obviously, they still had the same name and they still had the two same original owners So people obviously just assumed they were the same.

Like people thought, Oh, can I use my gift voucher in either one of the salons? Or I paid a deposit in that salon, but I actually wanted to go to that salon. Like, can I just switch over? And yeah, it was complicated, but I don't know. We made it work. It was fine. Um, but I did always feel that kind of pullback of like, whatever I do for my own personal growth will always still be tied to someone else's personal growth as well.

If that makes sense completely and vice versa and vice versa. Like, I guess you never really felt like You had your whole identity And I mean, especially the last time we spoke on the pod as well I think I was like I was a little lost puppy at that point. You really were yeah i'd come from Um, I think selene was what?

Um, maybe a year old then, maybe a little bit younger than that, even I'd really struggled to find my groove with coming back from being a stay at home mom for the seven months that I had her. And then I was only in the salon one or two days a week and I just really struggled with what I wanted to do.

And I think this has given me a purpose and an identity again that I never knew I needed. See, it's like that's the identity piece and all those other little questions. It's so funny that you say that. Thinking back now to what we spoke about when you came on last time, there were so many little areas of question.

Yeah. That it seems like you're like, you know, am I, do I still affiliate with this brand? Am I still going to want to travel with my education? It's like, since you took that and birthed a new brand, you actually, Really just found your place in all the places you want to be again, you know, like, it was like that was holding everything back.

And I feel like even my team has felt that as well, like, and I mean, they, they, some of my team has been with me through this whole thing. And, you know, I feel like they needed it as well. It's like they needed to break free from the old salon, the old salon name, the old, Hmm. It's you taking your power into who you are and then fiercely leading that for your team as well.

Yeah. So that they have their new identity that goes with it. Yeah. A hundred percent. But it was fucking scary. Yeah. It was really scary. When's the right time to do it? How to do it? How to launch it? Like, and there's so many moving parts to rebranding. Although I was Eve the Salon on paper. There's so many little things that have to be taken care of to fully change over.

Yeah. And I, I was, I was in the mindset that if I'm doing it, I'm doing it properly. Yeah. Like I don't want any left over. Oh, Justine does everything so well, like, so with the rebrand everything was done well. The socials were done well, all the behind the scenes was done well, you know, she put the time and energy and effort into, you having a company to help her with this, like it was all done so beautifully that it looked pristine when it went, rather than you can see with, you know, otherwise it's like a bit dribs and drabs.

You don't know where it's up and down. Like, what is it, what's going on. And especially when it's a big salon that you have to do every. I was dotted and T was crossed before it went go. Yeah. I didn't want dribs and drabs. Yeah. I really didn't want it to be like a, Oh, we'll just change the name and then we'll slowly kind of move things over.

Which, oh my God, was so stressful for my husband. The poor man had like so many moving parts to help me operate. Like, cause I was doing signage, cards. And I was like, I was also, I did a little, I did a little renovation on the front of the salon and I was like, it needs to be all done by next Friday. And look, there was, to be fair, the wall wasn't done straight away, but that's okay.

I'll let him off the hook with that. We got there eventually. Um, but yeah, the signage was done. Everything was ready to roll. I was launching on a Sunday night on socials. Um, The only thing that went out before that was a text message to my database because I wanted my core people to know what was happening before they just saw it burst to life on social media.

I love that. Okay, before we talk about it bursting to life, and we can cut this out if we don't want to talk about it. Can we talk about the catalyst that drove this change? The why. The why. The why. The why was Eve Bourne. Look, like I said. It was something that I think I'd always deep down knew I wanted to do.

Your FBOS receipts when you started at Hair and Hollow, Fairy Meadow, said EVE the salon. Like it was always going to be that. It just, we just, you just never knew never knew when the right time was going to be. I never knew when the right time to be was going to be to, to 100 percent walk away from the brand.

Um, you know, and I knew if I just walked away from the brand, Not that I was walking away with nothing, because I was always still me and I always had that strength behind me, but I sort of felt like if there was two with the original owners, and then I just changed, does that make sense? Like, it was sort of like, well I was kind of just walking away.

Mm, yeah, okay. Whether, whether I hung on for too long because I was maybe a little bit stubborn about it, I question that, but then I've just trust, I'm trusting the divine timing that I did it when I was supposed to do it. And I do feel like it was the right time. Um, like as many of you would know, well, maybe, maybe you wouldn't, but essentially the two moving parts of Heron Hollow.

One of them was sold and I felt really uncomfortable that I now owned a brand name with somebody that I didn't know. Um, so I guess the timing came from not necessarily the best place in some ways, but I made the best out of it. And potentially gave you the nudge that you weren't going to do. You know what I mean?

I feel like it really did give me the push that I needed to just go, now's the time. Yeah. Um, and it was really scary and it was, you know, I was also pregnant again. Thea's pregnant again. I am pregnant again. I'm now very pregnant. Yeah. But rebranding when I was, you know, five months pregnant probably wasn't something that I would have initially thought was the best timing for it.

But in saying that now, I think if I'd have waited until the baby was born, like, who knows until I came out of that little deep dark hole again, where you feeling a little bit lost for the six to nine months or six to 12 months that it takes to come out from having a new baby, um, I don't know. That it, I think it actually was the best time as scary as it was to think, because I think people had always said to me, well, if you're going to rebrand, you're going to have to be the face of the brand for a good few years before you can step away again.

But I guess that's just, you know, a people's opinions and then you letting that fear creep into your life and you thinking that that is the way that it's going to have to be. But I mean, there's so much strength in social media and there's so much strength in getting your message out. That I, I still don't feel like I've had to come back into the salon any more than what I do.

But I definitely have shown up a lot more. Like I said, I feel like it really helped me find myself again. And I wanted to, I wanted to redo all of our staff photos. I wanted to redo all of the branding. I wanted to redo all of our social media. So I went in, I went into it with a bang. I hired a girl to do my social media.

In 10 years, I'd never had somebody help with social media at all. And I wanted that. Seamlessness of the rebrand to be posted on social media. Um, I started working with a marketing company as well to help with my email drop and things like that, which I'd never had that before. So I kind of lined everything up to, to really go off with a bang and start this.

really well. So you contacted your database and let them know what was happening. Yeah. Then what was your next? So you've got every you've set everything up in the background. Yeah. You've got everything ready to go. Yeah. How did you roll it out? So the signage was up. I think that that went up that week and I was just kind of like, nobody look.

But at the same time, I was kind of like, well, you know, signage can't go up on a Sunday afternoon. So, you know, some things have just got to happen. Um, website changes had started to roll over as well. So that was ready to launch, to go live as Eat The Salon. That was amazing. I kept my same website, but I just changed.

When I say I, not me, my people's, they change everything. The, the vase changed over like the DN, DNS records. So I could keep my same website. I just had to change over all the logos and everything like that, which was really good. Um, but even that, like, you don't think about how tricky that will be. Like it really changed all of my Google analytics, like spiraled.

And that's what I was going to say. So you kept your same website. Google page, you could just change that. But something, I mean, I don't fully understand all of this part of it, but anybody who's rebranded probably will. Um, yeah, the whole Google, like it sends Google nuts. Cause I don't, Google doesn't understand what's happening on the back ends necessarily.

Apple Maps. God, that was another thing. Oh, I still feel like we are three and a half years here and Apple Maps still has a lose and sends people to the old salon. And a couple of my staff members here. Oh my gosh. It's stupid. A couple of my staff members had said it and I was like, who even uses Apple Maps?

Everybody. And they were like, uh, we all do. I was like, I use Google Maps. I confess, I confess I use Apple Maps. I use Apple Maps. I never ever use any other map but what's on my map on my phone. Yeah. Apple maps was a pain in the ass. Yeah. They were sending people to another suburb. I don't know why. Yeah.

Okay. But anyway, obviously like there was a few little things that just, you're never going to know that are a problem until they, until the problem arises. Yeah. But yeah, so the rollout happened. The text message went out on the Friday to all of our clients. Heron Harlow is rebranding to Eve the salon. Um, and then yeah, everything else was just, Socials, social media changed.

The name changed on social media. That was a big moment. That was a scary moment. Like changing your Instagram name. Cause once it's, once you change it, that's it. Like you can't keep changing your name. All the time on socials. So it's like 30 days or something. Yeah. Wait or something. Yeah. Yeah. That was actually one thing that screwed me up a little bit because three years ago, I saved the Instagram name, Eve the salon with an underscore at the end.

And then it was only as the time was approaching closer. That I realized I wasn't actually going to be able to use that page because I'd already created it. And when you delete that, that page, it's 30 days until the name becomes available. But the rebrand was happening in like six days. So I just had to like, keep going through and seeing what was available.

And then I, Eve underscore the salon was available, but I couldn't save it. So every day I was just checking is Eve the salon still available. And the people like that wanted to do my business cards. I was like, They were wanting their proof and I'm like, okay, I'm just, I'm committing whatever. If I get 5, 000 business cards that end up having to go in the bin will be what it will be, but it was actually okay.

But yeah, they were like the little moving parts that you weren't expecting to be as fiddly as they were like getting your proof done on your bloody business cards with the Instagram name that I couldn't save that I was changing on Sunday, but it worked. And Eve underscore the Salonies. I just love it.

I love it. It's perfect. And I just, yeah, I really feel like, as you said in that last episode, Jess was so lost to where she was, you know, she wasn't back in the salon yet. She was trying to find her feet with motherhood and business and you've flourished. Yeah. I feel like I've really found a really good balance between Being a mom and being a business owner and a hairdresser and, you know, all the hats that we put on and being myself.

I mean, I'm not the same person that I was before I had a baby. Nobody is, I think. And I'm so fine with that. You're even better, babe. You're even better. Like, I never felt like I went necessarily through the grief of losing my old self. Because, I mean, Celine's just been the light of my life. Like, I'm just obsessed with her.

I love you. Um, and I think as well, the fear, I mean, I didn't last episode, I spoke about how I didn't expect to, to not want to know what to do with my career after I had a baby so that sort of like threw me so much. And I think that was another reason that made me feel so lost. Cause I was like, Oh, whoa, I was not expecting that.

Like I've always just been Justine the hairdresser. Yeah. Yeah. So then finding the balance with that, whereas I feel like this time. I'm like, it's okay if I do lose that side of myself again, because I know it will come back. So it's not as scary anymore. Like even if I do step away from the salon and wonder again, what I want to do, it's like, I know it will come back eventually.

Like, cause I know this is still so much a part of who I am to my core. And you've sort of taken a slightly different approach to things. Like you, you stepped away, you felt a bit lost and then you're like, I feel like, you know, when we spoke last, you were talking about wanting to venture down that hair extensions route and you've really now gone down that road, you know, like, it's like, okay, yeah, I might do that.

I will. I've had such, like, I've had such an amazing time with my hair extension journey. Like, I love hair extensions so much, but I've also been welcomed into such a beautiful community with it. Like, Yvonca, who has just taken me under her wing completely with You know, extensions and she's just such a beautiful, beautiful person that wishes everyone so much success.

And if it wasn't for her, there's no way I would probably even, I wouldn't be where I am with her extensions and I wouldn't have that same passion for it because her passion is so infectious. And like recently I went on tour with them. I did Brisbane and Melbourne. I did the row show. There was two girls from America that were absolutely incredible.

You know, it just being like, obviously it's hard being away from your family on times like that, but you do get to feel that, that rush of the old you a little bit as well. And yeah, I've really, really opened up into hair extensions now. And I definitely feel like that'll be continued. That, that will be the part of my career that continues to flourish and grow.

And that's, that's going to be my drive and my passion moving forward again. I love it. Yeah. So how far are we off having babies? Six weeks, aren't we? Six weeks. Wow. Crazy. So Six weeks moving house. Yeah, in the next six weeks I have to move house. Set up another baby's room, which is not done at all. But we all know now second time around you're like, yeah, it just needs a bassinet and nappies.

Bassinet and boobs were good. Yep. Yep. Pack it in nappies and we're good to go. Good to go. It's crazy, isn't it? Like this time, my last pregnancy, everything was set up ready. Like I didn't know what I was having, but everything was ready. The cot was ready that you don't use for bloody six months. And. But this time you're just like, yeah, we'll figure it out.

It'll be fine. I'm more concerned about the move because I'm not someone who likes to sit still and just go, Oh yeah, I'll unpack that box when I get to it. Like, I'm such a Oh no, I want it done. Yes. I want my house. Like I'm a very home person. I love my house. When you get home from holiday, do you unpack your bag straight away?

Like seconds within the door. Serial killer. Yeah. Everything. Like I have to have my suitcase packed away. Completely away. Yeah. Yeah. Washing's done. Are you like that? No, it depends what day the nanny's coming. I love you, Nessie. Um, I'm very much like, I'm very organized with what my stuff looks like. Like I'm always packed on the side going home.

Like I'm very detailed and my washing goes straight away, but then my bag will normally sit there until Darshan packs it for me. Yeah. Well, Didn't you say you've had her since you were like 20 I don't know how to function without her. That's fair. That's fair. She's like pretty much just my whole identity at this point.

Like the only reason I can do anything. Everyone goes, how do you manage it? I'm like, I have Ness and she manages it all for me. She manages my shit for me. Um. We all need one of those. Everyone needs a Ness. But yes, I do like to unpack as soon as I get home. And then it's actually like, who was I saying to you about this again?

Um. I love, like, I love coming away and doing things like this, but it's so hard when I'm not home on a Monday because Monday is like the day, like I'm a hairdresser. I've always had Mondays off Mondays, like my groceries day. And, but I just sat and did my groceries while you were doing good potty. Oh, I love how parents do it before.

Oh my God. No, send, deliver it. No, you can collect here. Just deliver it to my door. And that's why I'm back. How many times in our career life have we said work smarter, not harder? Yeah, yeah. So we have just spent the weekend away. Obviously we did, we just had retreat. Do you want to talk on that? Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

I loved it. Cause I, we've just come off, like we literally finished breakfast. So, um, I'd love to know where you're at with it, how you were feeling, because obviously I will talk to everyone in Voxer in about five minutes, but, um, do you want to just give everyone a bit of a rundown on what that looked like for you, even in the mastermind for you for what this year's like, because as you said, she's very come back to herself.

And I really resonated with what, I mean, Lauren's been, Lauren's had like, what a year and But I really resonated with what she said at breakfast this morning when she's like, when Vox, sorry, when Mastermind kind of first kicked off, I feel like it was probably a little bit hard for all of us to quite grasp onto it.

And you know, it was a group of people that we'd, we'd never met before. I mean, I'd met Lauren and obviously you guys, but I hadn't met the other girls in the group and I'd done one on one coaching with you. I hadn't done the group coaching before. Um, but I feel like as the year went on and we all started to, it was also my first.

So I, like, it was the first time I'd been a part of a mastermind, but I'd never run one myself. So then I was like, how does it happen? Am I giving enough? Am I doing enough? And just like watching the magic of this week, watching the magic of the entire year play out. And then by the time it's gotten to retreat.

It's like we all knew each other, like literally walking into that room, it was just like, Oh my God, like, Hi, like, I think even when I hugged Megan goodbye today, I was like, not, it was nice to see you, like, I didn't even say like, nice to meet you, even though it was actually the first time I'd met her in person.

Yeah. It was like, I just felt like we'd all known each other for so long. Yeah, I think that's why Retreat felt so at ease. It was such a special time. We were just with, like, there was just, you know, that ultimate girls weekend when you go away, where you're just like, there is so much vulnerability and love and just joy.

And I was really, everyone was very vulnerable and I was very vulnerable as well. So like, it's just a, it's just a time where you're like, I'll never forget. these conversations and these moments and yeah just a specialness like if everyone all of us currently are wearing these oh yeah our bracelets incredible crystal bracelets that have all this meaning that megan made for all of us and it's just like even when loz was sitting there and i was looking down at yours and like the fact that we all have this piece of this like kept it on huge road of the last 12 months together personally and professionally yeah but what a way like And this is, like, amazing that you guys were able to bring a group of women together that got along like that.

It's like you knew who to, like, pick out and invite into the group that you knew was gonna It was exactly that. Yeah. We were very specific. It was an invitation process, yeah. Like, what we did even yesterday with Margot, that wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea. Yes. But we were all like, Like, she's everyone's new hero, like everyone's like, Oh my God, we're contacting her.

We're getting her to, so Lauren was out. Um, I guess she did a meditation, spiritual kind of guidance with us yesterday. And yeah, we were all just so in awe of her. So the weekend, so we got an apartment, a penthouse down in Kingscliff. I was like, we need water energy. We need beach energy. We're on the coast.

Um, and we just started very like. chill and relaxed. And you know, everybody came in and we had a platter and we're just talking. And then we ended up going to dinner, which was so nice. Just nice circuit breaker, get out. We went to this beautiful restaurant, had dinner. Um, and then we were up to like midnight, none of us wanted to go to bed.

And finally Lauren's like, I'm going to bed. And we were like, thank you, Lauren. We all need to do this. Let's go to bed in 15 minutes. And then 15 minutes later, I couldn't help it. Like it was just so good. Finally went to bed. Um, And we all had matching pajamas and it just was felt really like wholesome and like, you know, and yeah, Jen and I's whole purpose for that weekend.

And which I knew from the beginning was just complete nurture. Like I knew my people needed nurture. I knew, I knew out like I know how Full on it is being a mum and a business owner and a partner and a friend and I was just like I want them to not think about a thing and I want to make all the decisions and I want them just to be puddles and just to be themselves for an entire weekend.

That's it. Just Justine. Just Lauren. Just Megan. Just Carole. Like just 100 percent themselves. Which is, that was our main purpose. I've already like VM'd my girlfriend's group and they're like how's your weekend? And I'm like oh my god it's literally been. I was like, it's been the perfect balance between business and self care.

Like I said, we've done, we did Pilates. We've done a meditation session. We've done our figures. We've all sat and talked shop. Yeah. And it was so funny as we went through it. So we started with like, Like I said to the girls, this is your pick, your own adventure. You can do whatever or whatever. So yeah, we did a beach walk in the morning with a couple of us, got coffees, brought it back and we did Pilates, a Pilates session, which was so nice to start our bodies with movement.

And then we did like a, on a rooftop, listening to the ocean. Yeah. Then we did like a acai bowls for breakfast. I'm also like, my love language is. to take care of people, to cook for people. So even for me being able to like cook and no one have to think about what they had to do. Like for example, you were like, I was just doing the Woolies order.

Like I didn't want any of that thought. I want it all to be taken for you. So, um, then. Not even have to think about picking up your bowl. Yeah, and I didn't. I just felt like there was like little fairies everywhere like, are you finished with that? Would you like more? And you guys just took care of us so, so well.

But even for me on the other side, none of that felt hard. Like it just felt so easy. Yeah. Um, so then, and it wasn't conscious. It was just me taking care. Like that was just not conscious. Um, and then we went into a working session and we were just like, It was just explosive in this working session of what we had designed.

Our brains couldn't keep up with what was happening. We're just like, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping. And then everybody, I think at that point, so that started it too, because there was a genuine buzz and excitement around the working session. Yeah. And I think that says so much. We planned to do it for two hours.

We planned to do from 10 to 12. And you kept saying, we went, we went from 10 to literally the minute I made it. If I remember, I yelled at everyone like, get off your computers. This is done now. Yeah, we can come back to it. But I was like, I knew no one was coming back to it, but we had four full after Margo, solid after Margo.

We had four full solid hours, just dedicated to be two hours of work. And then two hours that we were able to go free time. Yeah. None of us, everyone was just like, no, let's keep going. Let's keep going. And there was, Like, we could have been there for days, like, and just kept, because this is the, the absolute magic of a mastermind, is you've got six heads together.

coming up with different ideas, creating different things and then we have Rich that can develop things for us in this like incredible like brain that is completely different to ours that he can make spreadsheets and develop things and then we're all like Lauren's like I did this and everyone's like I love that I'm gonna do that.

Oh, what'd you get for that? Oh my God. I love that. Let's come back to that. I'd like, keep going. We need to come back to this, but we could have gone for hours and hours. Like we could have just kept going. And I think it was so magical that that needs to be more of that in person because we do it on the phone, but just being there and being with each other and doing that in person was just so funny, actually, because like I said, I'd had prior to I had last weekend off.

And then the two weeks before that I was in Brisbane and Melbourne. And like, obviously all my close friends and family at home were like, you can't go away. Like, yeah, You're having a baby in six weeks. Like you need, I'm still working as well. So I'm going straight back into the salon tomorrow. Like you need to slow down and I was like.

I can't miss the retreat. You're like, this is not, this is where I'm going to be actually loved. I would rather just be snoozing at home, getting my cat naps in. But I was like, I can't miss the retreat. We had a little bit of cat nap time. Yeah, we did. Margot definitely made me fall asleep. So then at, so then after the working session, so we did lunch.

And after the working session we did. So I have this, I, a girl, a client slash girlfriend of mine. When I was going through the thick of things. She left the salon one day, I didn't even do her hair, and she sent me and she was like you have to go to this, I've booked it, just go. And it was like, oh, her name was Margot, and I've spoken to her about her on the pod before, um, I think we need to get Margot on the pod.

Oh, that'd be so interesting. Yeah, um, so, you know, we, I went, not knowing what it was, this was like, Postmark, pre Lee, you know, I actually was, I met, met up with Lee that night that I went into her and I had a kahuna massage, which is like this, like, it's completely vulnerable. You're nude, you know, and it, and the beginning she just, we walked in, she was like, now tell me what's happening.

And I was just like, Oh no, the first time, actually I lie, the first time I ever went to her was pre that. And I was single and I was going through the mess. That was the second time I went to her and I just was a mess and I was just sobbing and I needed to be held by somebody. Yeah. But nobody that knew me because I just am not like that.

in normally, like I just, and she just, I went in and told her what's happening and she just heard it and she just like gave me, you know, thought processes to go through and stuff. And I remember having that massage and just like, just feeling so held and loved and taken care of that. I was like, this has changed.

And I remember messaging my friend and was like, you've just changed my, like, she's actually an, angel just straight sent from heaven. She's just exactly what I needed. So the next time I had the massage, which was a few weeks later was the night I was going to meet Lee. And she's like, your energy is completely different because it was just, I'd finally stepped back into my body.

Like she was, she'd helped me so much. So I had another nudie massage, the best. And then only a few weeks ago, I was having a moment and she had an appointment free and one of my best friends had booked it for me, booked me a session because she was like I want to get you something and she knew I loved it so she booked it for me and I went to this session and again just so much healing that I needed at that point and when I was there I was like I need you for my retreat.

Like you need. And she'd never done anything like this before and I was like, I have to have you at my ion. And she did so well. Oh my gosh. She did so well in like a, gosh, I definitely thought that she was amazing way to facilitate so well experienced different facets, um, you know, working in through those mindset and belief systems.

Yeah. And then the physical aspect of the hypnotherapy, like to think that it's the first time she's. been guiding a group like that is And it was funny because in the beginning she was like, all right, we're gonna break off into like groups We could do it together, but it's gonna be pretty vulnerable.

And we were like, oh my do it together the vulnerable band Should we just all take our clothes? Yeah It's so incredibly vulnerable right now. You're good like open the wounds in front of each other And that was really help like I guess the closeness of the way that our group was probably did help her You Yes.

Coming to a group for the first time and really just be able to, to do what she does. Yes. And be her best. Yeah, but even in that, like we just, I, you know, she got us to write down some of these rules that we've set for ourselves and even when we were talking through them, I was like, we all, they were all very similar, what I had written down to what you like, to what all, I'm like, I've got that, I've got that, that's what I put down and then someone to be like, I've got that.

So even as we were talking through as a group, it was so. Like strongly resonating what that looked like. And then we, um, laid down for the meditation. I think we all just went to sleep. Like it was the most incredible meditation. What happened? Before we met our inner children. I was like, everyone's talking about going to the gate.

I don't remember a gate. I was like, I was just asleep at that point. But I'm just, he's like saying, but I'm really hoping my subconscious just Book picked up on it and did what it needed to do. And, um, it was like, she was like the sound of five. I'm going to click my fingers and everyone's going to be back.

Right. So we all sat up and Jen and Lauren. Out to it. They're like, so asleep all. And I was, Jen was behind me and Lauren was in front of me. She said that? Yeah. Did she really? You even had a slight like mouth tilt. Yeah. You were like, no, she goes, I'm going to count to five and she's like, and when I say five.

Everyone will be wide awake. By this point, I'd already woken up. I'd woken up too. So, but then I looked up and like stretched around. Lauren's like dead, like a doormat. And I look over at you and you're like this. And I was like, Jen and Lauren didn't get the memo. And that's when I started laughing. And then I looked at Lauren and Lauren just came to and she was like, Whoa, what was that?

And then I turned around and looked at Jen and she's just like, Like imagine when the dears cross the road and they're like headlights, Jen was like, like no idea what had just happened. What she just transversed at that time. It was, and then we all just fucking lost it. Like how long have you fuckers been awake for what's going on so good.

So even through that, like, it was so nice, but. Um, we were really focused, like Jen and I speak a lot on, um, love languages. Yeah. So we were really focused on making sure that everybody's like, we were able to touch on all aspects. Yeah. Everyone felt that. But then yeah, after that, so we cooked the most amazing dinner and then ate that.

And then after that, we were like, It's spa time. So we all went to the spa and sat and drank and just hung out again. And we needed to recover from the Pilates session. Yeah. There was just so many moments of, I guess you've already said it, vulnerability, like there was so many raw moments, like, you know, seeing these women just, we shared so much about stuff that we don't even normally talk about, like our children and our struggles and our, Families and relationships and so much came out.

But it was funny the entire time on the weekend. It was so interesting how we kept referring to something that somebody had said in the mastermind group of the year and how that had helped. Like, you know, I'd said to like Megan, I remember Megan getting in one day and she was talking about how lucky we are to do what we do, how much she loves her clients.

And it was this moment, aha moment for me, even this week with being back in La Sorella. Like, And I was like, I can't tell you how much I needed that. And I didn't need that when she said that a couple of months ago. Yeah, I needed that. It's that recollection of that. And it was just such a pinnacle moment for me to remember that.

And it was the same with all of us. Everyone had said stuff over the 12 months that may not have been in that moment. But as the year had gotten on, it's like, that's what got me through. That's what, when I realized and I resonated with that, that's how I was able to show up. But, you know, Oh, a group of women that all have so much knowledge to share.

It wasn't all my knowledge. It was theirs as well. So someone, you know, if I didn't have the answer or the knowledge or the best advice. you know, you had all these other women that could give you the different advice that was super helpful as well. And it's, you know, there is so much power and we know that in community, like we know that this is the first time we've seen this, this fucking powerful.

I mean, I think it was really nice to watch cause I, as we've spoken about, like I sit in the background of a lot of our box of things that just making sure that things are working and running and, and the evolution as both. You just and Lauren said in the beginning it, it was like, Oh, I'm sorry, like I'm getting it, but you could, it just took that one conversation where someone was just like, Oh shit, like this is just that and that community built and it was strong and it was really powerful.

I remember you even saying to me one day, I think, when I was going through the thick of the rebrand, and something had gone down, and a couple of weeks prior to that, I'd been really silent in the group because I'd been going through, I think, just something else with the business. And I think I maybe even came to you separately and you were like, dude, you have to get in the chat about it.

And I was like, Oh, I feel like I haven't been in enough. Like I haven't commented on other people's stuff enough to just come in and just dump my shit. And then you were like, no, I was like, no. And then again, I went like, I was obviously having a bit of a, uh, you know, sticky moment. And I just went into the group and just dumped it all.

And the first thing you said to me was, I'm so proud of you for coming straight to us with this. Yeah. Um, because it, and it, it did help so much. Like having you guys as that backbone when, you know, there were those hard moments in the rebrand and, and the questions and the not knowing what to do. Like, I don't even think I would have, I mean, I would have gotten through the rebrand, but not the same way without that group of women behind me.

And the girls said a lot of the time too, it's, and the one thing that felt really powerful this weekend was hearing you guys, Oh, full body chills was hearing you guys say at moments, I have got through a, I couldn't have got through this year, but the other thing was for me is this is where I come for this space and no longer do I need to go anywhere else for it.

So, and it was, that was really powerful for me because a lot of the girls were like. The person I would take it to is my husband and then it would, and then that's all we're talking about. Yeah. And then, and that is such a fucking important relationship that that's not where you, you need to be able to dump into a different area.

That's not your marriage or your relationship and men don't have such a different take on things than women. And sometimes it's really good. Like sometimes my husband is like, Like really makes me think clearly because of his such masculine energy, but sometimes you need that softness and that like, not someone to necessarily try and fix it, but to say, just listen, that's shit.

And we're here to listen. We're here to support you. It's so, it hits so different to being able to go home and tell your husband, who's like, well, why don't you just fire them?

And that's what everyone said. I don't, I'm no longer. take any of this into my relationship anymore. It all just comes here. And, and, you know, even just that, like, um, Carolyn said, like, I'd have a moment where she's like, I just get on Vox and have to voice it all. And then I'd walk back in the salon and I was happy.

I feel so much better. Yeah. Like I've just kind of dumped all my And it's also the working space in your head of, as you speak it out, you're like, hold on. Yep. I can see that. Yep. And, and she even watching her flourish this year and Megan, it was amazing because she was just able to even like just getting it off.

And as you're speaking it out, you're like, Oh, I can see that. Okay, cool. I know what to say, what to make. Like, so a lot of the times by the end. A lot of everyone, and then it was just support on the other side, like you have made, this is the right decision. But yeah, more than anything, like I remember that day where you're like, I can't show up, I haven't supported anyone else.

It's like, this is not what this group's for, and this is not what anybody expects. But that was such a pivotal moment in the group, in a general, for me. Yes. . Yeah. Just being able to really realize that you can just go in there and it's, it's okay. Yes. It's like your best friend chat and everybody understands.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That is exactly what it is like, which is like, that's what my girlfriend group chat is like. You get in when you can get in. Yep. You pick up where you left off. Yeah. Sometimes you're not in there for a week. Sometimes you're in there every day. Yeah. And that's how it really feels. Yeah.

So again, to meet all of. The women in, in person and being able to spend such a special, like we didn't even leave that place. I think Lauren and I, especially cause we are obviously bloody a bit sleep deprived at the moment. Yeah. And we just kept sleeping in, we'd get home, but we'd get up and everybody had been out for their beach walk in the morning and Lauren and I were like, what?

What just happened? Like even this morning, the only person that got up, the only person that got up for a beach walk this morning was Carolyn. Everyone else was asleep. Like she, I got up and she goes, are you coming? And I'm like, I stayed up till 2am talking to Jen. I'm fucking tired. But like, we didn't even leave the apartment.

No. For two days. We just, we could have just stayed in those pyjamas full time. We should all be in them right now. We just stay in those pyjamas and live our best life. I know, I can sit in it. Yeah. Yeah. But even for me, like, I planned to take all this content. Then, fuck, Lauren was on it. Because, She just took the great content, but we were just so immersed in each other.

Yeah, it was really hard. I think it's terrible with my phone. It hard. No, but it's great. But it's great. Yeah. If you are terrible with your phone, you're in your life. Yeah. If you are terrible with your phone, I believe phone to my, my husband or Celine, if terrible in your phone. You are the most present.

Like, so my goal in life is to be terrible on my phone to be present because it means I'm highly present in my life. Exactly. And you know, we all sat down, we. we put strong business goals into place, but we also put some strong personal goals into get place as well. So, you know, actually now being able to sink our feet into that and what does that look like?

What are you going to, and I'll get into the voxel later today and be like, all right, what do we actually commit to? But what a way for me to go into maternity leave. I've got two weeks left of work. I've just done like, that was one of the things we had to do this weekend was go around in a circle and say the thing that we're most proud of this year.

And obviously for me, it was the rebrand and really coming into myself and finding myself again as a business owner and a salon leader. And then now I get to go into my maternity leave after such a powerful weekend. Like, I just feel like I can be such a good leader for my team. It's been a, it's been an entire year of rebirth for you.

It really has. Like in every way. And then we're about to birth another one. Yeah. And then we're going to birth another one. Yes. And he loves you. But yeah, it's just, it's goes to show how, how important it is to surround yourself with the right circle. Oh, for sure. And the right, like how, like another person that's been a huge support to me as, you know, one of our best friends, Chantelle from Talish.

Like I couldn't have got through things without her as well. Like just. Just having that person who find your people, have your community. We had a baby at the same time. So that's been so nice to kind of go through that together as well. And then she's just such a spot business owner. It's just incredible.

Like to be able to have that lifeline support from her and you and you know, the team. Yeah. In the mastermind. Yeah. It's just, you can't do. Like you're not meant to do this life on your own. You're meant to do this life part of villagers and you just, you know, for people like, I don't have a village. It's like, well, just keep searching till you find the one that fits.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, and you know, and it was really nice this morning. Everyone did say that, like, I never, I didn't know what the beginning of this was going to look like. Lauren, we were talking about it all, losing ourselves laughing this morning. Lauren was listening to the first mastermind call we had in my life.

While giving birth. She was in labor. She was in labor. Yeah. She was like, I was getting in juice. So she's like, Hey guys. She's like, the contractions weren't that bad at that time. She showed up to our Voxer. She's like, Hey guys, I'm in labor. I'm being induced. The contractions aren't that bad. So I've got about 10 minutes to go on the mastermind goal before she was like pushing out Tully.

So it's what you know, so baby things. Yeah, get this baby out. And yeah, well, not that she intended to get back to work. Our next mastermind isn't a month if this one comes early. Yeah, that's true. Justine's like, join me for my labor, um, but it feels really great to do, you know, there was so many tears this weekend, but so much like, there was a lot of joy and laughter as well.

The tears were though, the tears were the deep, deep moments of like release and gratitude and sharing of vulnerability. She just has such an aura about her, doesn't she? Yeah. Yeah. Everyone does, but she's, she's a very special, very special human. I think there's, it's also like a group that wouldn't have come together any other way.

And I think that's really special as well. Like this is a group of people that have become so important to each other that you genuinely wouldn't have found each other. And because we all have such different types of salons. Like me, there's only just, like she's by herself with one staff. Yeah. And building.

And another one starting in February. And then. You know, there's people with big teams is like, it's, yeah, it's such an array of people that you wouldn't have. Locations, different stuff. Yeah. And it was funny cause when I think about it. Like, and you said it was like, it was all handpicked. It was like, we were very specific.

I was very specific with what that looked like because it was so important that you all could feel vulnerable with each other. So I had worked or been alongside you guys in different areas before I put that together. Like I said to Richard, no one can just come into this group. I have to have, so it was only put out to like people that you'd people that I've worked with before.

And then Carolyn was my sister's hairdresser before I was a hairdresser. So we just started connecting and I was like, even though I hadn't worked with her, I was like, rich, she has to be invited into this group. I just know that this is what she needs more than anything else I could give her. She needs her people.

She needs to understand her growth has been insane. Yeah. Like seeing her fully in her body at the moment, like we went for that beach walk yesterday morning and she's just like, I'm Bored? Like, sometimes I'm bored. And I'm like, okay. And she's like, So now I'm thinking, I'm like, no, just be bored. Yeah. So I'm going to open up, you know, like, because, and it's such a joy to watch her like that and to just release all those little things like Lauren was saying in her pod to release all the small things that no longer matter.

And then you can just fully immerse yourself and live into that life rather than feeling like it is just, you know, constant hitting up against a brick wall. You just let your barriers down and things seem to run so much nicer. It was just a powerhouse weekend. It was a powerhouse weekend. It was like, such strong women in one room, just bouncing off each other's energy.

Yeah, that energy. I know. Was palpable. Bottle it. Yeah. Rich would like that. Wouldn't you like that, Rich? Yep. Bottle it in the Thrive Cup. Yeah. Um, so how are you feeling to finish up? Yep. How are you feeling about? Like you're obviously, you've found yourself more than ever since that last pod. Yeah. How are you feeling going into the last moments of this pregnancy and after and beyond?

I do feel like it will be, I feel like it will be different this time as I don't feel like I will probably lose my, I mean, I may, but again, I'm, I'm okay with that because I know I will find that, that like, it's like when you, you know, Like I think I said to you over the weekend, like, I've also accepted my body a lot more with this pregnancy because you're like, I know this baby will come out and I'll get back to my walks and I'll get back to my fitness properly and The first time around you don't, when we were saying that about You're so, well it's a fear, it's a fear of the unknown We were talking about that with my sister in law and how like the first pregnancy she was like terrified and her body was always covered up and she wasn't, she was so unsure And then this next pregnancy, she was just like wanting to be nude the whole time.

Cause she's like, Whoa, my body is so powerful and fierce. And it can like, I know what it's capable of. And now I'm just going to be in all of it's magnificent. And like my team at the moment is absolutely incredible. Like I've also had a really big journey with my team over the last 12 months. I've changed.

I've completely restructured my business. I don't have any apprentices anymore. I've introduced freelancers into the salon. Um, and I feel really content. Freelance is in a different way too. Yeah. Like, yeah. Yeah, not, not renter chair stylus. Not renter chair. I've got, and, and I also always thought it was going to be really difficult to have a mixed team.

Like I still have staff and then I also have commission based freelancers working in there. And it's working really well. And I, I, I'm so much, I've got such a good connection with my team at the moment that I feel like, Oh. I'll stay that way. Yeah. Even when I'm off. Yeah. Like I've had really good teams in the past before, but I did have a really hard 12 months with team.

I feel like a lot of salon owners have gone through the same thing in this. There's been a huge shift in, in staff changes. And like, before I had my freelancer start, I had one full time senior, one part time senior, one, I still was employed, but she was going to Europe for seven weeks. Like I had one full time senior at one point this year.

I was like, The fuck am I going to do? I remember you being in that though and Justine's salon is not a small salon. No, no. I remember being We were doing cartwheels in there, it was like crickets. I remember I mean, fortunately, I obviously can step back in, but that was really hard on home life. Like I was tag teaming with Dave.

And that's when you went silent in the group and it wasn't And then all of a sudden you came back in and you were like, Guys. Yeah, that's right, that's what it all was. And then, you know, again, like Even looking back at that and being like, you go, how the hell did I get through that moment? And then you get through that moment, you're just flying again.

But even just being able to get in and go, this is what I'm thinking. This is where my head's at. Someone else being like, I've been thinking that, or I'm doing this, or okay, have you thought about this? Or have you discovered that? And even for me watching, Um, Jen, this weekend, I just was like watching the, I, I feel like you've learned so much privileged to have spent the weekend in the presence of everybody that was there.

I feel lucky all the time to get to be on a business journey with you. I feel so lucky that my best friend is so fucking smart, but that. Yeah, I just absorbed so much from so many people. It was really powerful. And it was powerful because I felt connected to everybody. Because I do sit, and sometimes I can't.

Sometimes I'm like, you need to message Justine right now and tell her that this is not okay. You tell her. I was like, you're getting the creep. You're in it, you're listening. You tell Justine yourself. Yeah. That was so funny. You guys were VMing me. I know. I know, I know. But I, yeah, I just think that, yeah, to, to see the power of community for business owners was just amazing.

And like also being so like, I feel like so, I mean, Lauren in particular has gone through so much this year, but you know, getting to points in business where. You hit your peaks and you hit and you hit your troughs like oh Yeah, and anyone that's leveling along. It's like I'm a business mentor and my God, am I living a journey.

How many times do you go through your lull moments and they're really shit And they're really hard at the time. Yeah when I got to the point this year where I had One full time senior because a girl had left the same week that another senior, I had a small team and then I had one girl resign and one girl was going to Europe the following week, which had obviously been planned, but it left me with one full time senior.

And then it, but it pulled me back into the business again on the floor more, like I was tag teaming with Dave. So that was challenging, but you know, come six weeks after that, I just remember sitting down with my team and saying, that was the best thing. That's happened. That is the best thing that could have happened.

It always is, but knowing that at the time is so fucking hard. It's so hard. But I felt like so close and connected to my team after we went through that together. Yeah. You know, and trying to juggle these appointments and, and, you know, find, find our groove with having bloody. Two of us. And I had Haley, she was part time, but she didn't work nights or anything.

So I was, I didn't want my full time there on her own. And that that's where the juggle kind of came in. But, um, Brittany had actually like, it's, she was the full time senior that I had left over and it was incredible to watch. She, you know, really came out of her shell and Sean, like she hadn't, she was my newest, also my newest senior.

So we hadn't had years of working together. So it really bonded her and I, in a way. So. Yeah. It was incredible. It's been, it's been a year. So I feel like I'm going out with a bang, having a baby, you know, end of November. Then we'll go into a Christmas period. Then we start 2025. Oh my God. What even happened to 24?

Peace out 2024 you fucker. But I feel like everyone, like everyone said, so many lessons this year, like Jen and I were lying in bed last night. As I said, like we kept trying to go to sleep, but, and the girls were like, why? Why was it 2:00 AM You see each other all the time, but we don't get to just catch up as best mates.

Yeah. There's so much going on. So we like laid in bed and every time we tried to go to sleep I'd be like, oh, my one of us would be like, oh, did you like? And then we just keep talking. Oh, also, but we, like, at one point I remember just like lying there and I was like. So many lessons and Jen's like, so many lessons.

I'm like, I had enough of the lessons. Jen's like, no more lessons. And then. This morning, Megan and um, Carolyn who were in the room across us, like just, they were like, we just could not stop like laughing at you and Jen just fucking cackling up because this is how we were like, it was just like, we were two like 16 year old versions of ourselves lying in bed and I was like, Well how often do you really get to have slumber parties with your friends anymore?

I know. In your thirties. Like it's not a thing. It was just, and it was so much fun. So good. Cause it was just like so vulnerable. And I was like, I'm just tired of the lessons. Jen's like, so tired and, but you know, again, having your people that see you as well, like, you know, as Jen was saying that Jen's like, I'm very lucky to have, you know, a best friend.

Who's a business owner is very smart. You hear those words and you know, you can do things, but I need. Unfortunately, with that way I am, like I need, I don't think I'm enough at times. I don't think I'm giving enough, even in this group. I never thought I was giving enough. We just open it up about like, I don't know if I'm giving enough and am I doing enough and is my knowledge enough?

And Yeah. And that's the beauty of being in a group like this. This, where everyone's like, you're being an idiot. Like, we've gotten so much and gained so much. So even having Rich and Jen see that. You know, Jen was laying in bed last night. And she was like, solo, because it's online. The program is so good, Sam.

It's so good. And I was like, I can't watch it, it's myself. And these guys are like, watch it, it's so good. But even, Jen's like, watch Richard's videos. He did so good. I am so proud of Richard's videos, they are incredible. He's sitting there right now. You have to watch them. He's like, whatever man. So awkward.

No, they're so good. But I know he needs the praise. Guys, they're so good. He reckons he doesn't need the praise, but he totally needs it. We all need the praise. We all need the good praise from time to time. Um, so, you know, you just, you know, Keep doing this and hope that you're doing enough. So if you're surrounding yourself with women that can see you when you can't see yourself is the most important thing that you can possibly do is give you, and you know, if you don't have it.

get into groups like this. Yeah. Like, because if you ask, if you, if you asked any of you women, you, the four, four of you said, would say that was the best money I've spent. Yeah. Because of the fact that I had my people for 12 months and I still have my people and like, I, the support had been, and we would like, I mean, it has to keep going, right?

Yeah. The connection doesn't end. Never. It's a mastermind. Richard goes, where do we go from here? I'm like, I don't know. We'll just. Probably just never stop. Like this is the, you know, cause we're the six best friends that anyone's ever had. So, anyway, I just want to say. You're going to wrap this up now, aren't you?

Wrapping this up now, yep. Cause we need to get our Josie on a plane. I know, so I just, I was just doing that. So I just wanted to say thank you, my girl. Thank you. For coming on the pod, coming on the podcast. Thanks for having me again. Like I feel very lucky that I get to do People might have thought I was lost in a forest somewhere after the last plot.

Where is Justine? She's so lost. She found her way out. And we're so excited for this next baby and this next chapter and for Eve to have finally come and I love, love, love Doing life with you as your friend, but also as your mentor. Thank you. I love you. Oh, thanks so much, guys. Thanks for joining us, darling.

Love you. Love you.